Croisan Scenic Trail... (part 2)
I sent a message to the Salem Transportation Services Manager to alert him about the fact that someone had put up a fence across the trail. Also asked him if I could place a geocache somewhere along the trail (that was really the reason I sent a message *grin*).
Apparently, the trail is not an "approved improvement to the public right-of-way" but the trail does indeed lay on a public right-of-way - so while they don't prevent people from traversing it (it's not private land), they do control improvements made on it.
Sounds like a gray area. Guess that's why there's so much debate over this trail. Good to know people are welcome to use it for hiking, biking, etc. Just have to get approval from the city first before making improvements to it (i.e. laying down gravel and that sort of thing). For example, the "Friends of Croisan Scenic Trail" got permission last month to add gravel and remove leaves from the path.
The fence and sign was placed by a home owner, and the Transportation Services Manager already discussed this with him - the home owner believes it's placed at the boundary of the corner of his lot. They still need to determine exactly where boundary really is though.
One part of the proposed plan (created by the Friends of Croisan Scenic Trail) is to have an agency research and map the boundaries. That plan will more than likely be presented at a City Council meeting to discuss the future of this trail.
Less gray, and more black and white seems to be necessary to get people on the same page.
Note: Didn't get permission to place a geocache along the trail - have to wait until after the trail is approved as an "improvement to public right-of-way" (at which point it apparently would become an official trail and nothing would really prevent me from placing a cache there).
What I've learned from taking a closer look at this issue is that people sure like to draw lines around stuff. Don't cross this, it's mine. Don't go there, that's where I go. You can do this, but not that.
Guess that's called society. Building cages within cages, and pretending there aren't cages. Learning to squeeze between the bars or that you can simply climb over the cage wall (so you can pretend there's not another cage wall you are still inside of) - that's what it's all about. Stupid cages.
Apparently, the trail is not an "approved improvement to the public right-of-way" but the trail does indeed lay on a public right-of-way - so while they don't prevent people from traversing it (it's not private land), they do control improvements made on it.
Sounds like a gray area. Guess that's why there's so much debate over this trail. Good to know people are welcome to use it for hiking, biking, etc. Just have to get approval from the city first before making improvements to it (i.e. laying down gravel and that sort of thing). For example, the "Friends of Croisan Scenic Trail" got permission last month to add gravel and remove leaves from the path.
The fence and sign was placed by a home owner, and the Transportation Services Manager already discussed this with him - the home owner believes it's placed at the boundary of the corner of his lot. They still need to determine exactly where boundary really is though.
One part of the proposed plan (created by the Friends of Croisan Scenic Trail) is to have an agency research and map the boundaries. That plan will more than likely be presented at a City Council meeting to discuss the future of this trail.
Less gray, and more black and white seems to be necessary to get people on the same page.
Note: Didn't get permission to place a geocache along the trail - have to wait until after the trail is approved as an "improvement to public right-of-way" (at which point it apparently would become an official trail and nothing would really prevent me from placing a cache there).
What I've learned from taking a closer look at this issue is that people sure like to draw lines around stuff. Don't cross this, it's mine. Don't go there, that's where I go. You can do this, but not that.
Guess that's called society. Building cages within cages, and pretending there aren't cages. Learning to squeeze between the bars or that you can simply climb over the cage wall (so you can pretend there's not another cage wall you are still inside of) - that's what it's all about. Stupid cages.
posted by Joe R at 3:39 PM
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